Author Topic: Help identify route from a historical photo (Read 2018 times)

mungeclimber · « **on:** October 22, 2019, 11:59:09 AM »

Got this pic from Brian Bermingham...

The climber is Dick Ellsworth. 1973.

What route is it?

The original photo may have been in color.

clink · « **Reply #1 on:** October 22, 2019, 01:21:14 PM »

Bushy's Battle of the Bulge?

mungeclimber · « **Reply #2 on:** October 22, 2019, 02:02:40 PM »

The idea that it was Crumbling Castle was floated. I had my doubts about that.

JC w KC redux · « **Reply #3 on:** October 22, 2019, 02:43:51 PM »

Quote from: mungeclimber on October 22, 2019, 02:02:40 PM

The idea that it was Crumbling Castle was floated. I had my doubts about that.

Doesn't look anything like Crumbling Castle.
Does not look familiar although I haven't done that many old routes.
Can't think of anything that gains a pedestal and then continues up a jelly roll gumdrop.
Looks like a pretty good drop below and it looks like a big formation from the wall in the background...on a slope...

mungeclimber · « **Reply #4 on:** October 22, 2019, 04:36:39 PM »

Ok, I had money on JC being able to ID it for us.

Where's Brad?

Here's another pic of the same line with more rock showing...

Brad Young · « **Reply #5 on:** October 22, 2019, 04:47:21 PM »

I've been busy with work and now with a topo.

Lemme look at it, although if John can't get it, I won't likely be able to either.

Brad Young · « **Reply #6 on:** October 22, 2019, 04:53:07 PM »

First guess is Hatchet.

EDIT:

But the rope is coming up from the "wrong" side for Hatchet. And the background hillside seems just a little too steep.

mungeclimber · « **Reply #7 on:** October 22, 2019, 04:59:55 PM »

oooh, good guess! I can see that. But you're right, the rope needs to be on the left side of the pic.

1973, moderate, from a guidebook at the time, is what I would start limiting by.

JC w KC redux · « **Reply #8 on:** October 22, 2019, 05:34:33 PM »

Something that traverses in to a pedestal. Only thing I can think of like that is Condor Crag and that is definitely not right.
I just paged through Richards guide and still clueless.
Do you know the answer?

Brad Young · « **Reply #9 on:** October 22, 2019, 05:36:55 PM »

Quote from: JC w KC redux on October 22, 2019, 05:34:33 PM

... like that is Condor Crag and that is definitely not right.

Agreed - the background shouldn't be so high if it is anywhere on the crest of the High Peaks.

I'm not coming up with anything else.

JC w KC redux · « **Reply #10 on:** October 22, 2019, 06:08:41 PM »

I think Rob is punking us

clink · « **Reply #11 on:** October 22, 2019, 06:31:01 PM »

The shoes are Canyons, comfortable.

JC w KC redux · « **Reply #12 on:** October 22, 2019, 06:48:37 PM »

I think it is The Snail 5.7R

JC w KC redux · « **Reply #13 on:** October 22, 2019, 06:57:08 PM »

Quote from: JC w KC redux on October 22, 2019, 06:48:37 PM

I think it is The Snail 5.7R

I just looked at some of my pics of The Snail and I can see the lodestone on the pedestal and on the right of the arete.
I am POSITIVE that it's The Snail.
What do I win?

Brad Young · « **Reply #14 on:** October 22, 2019, 07:01:30 PM »

Quote from: JC w KC redux on October 22, 2019, 06:48:37 PM

I think it is The Snail 5.7R

Yes, that's it.

Funny, the hillside across the way reminded me of that behind The Hand, but I didn't think of anything not on The Hand.

NOAL · « **Reply #15 on:** October 22, 2019, 07:07:05 PM »

Yep. That's why he's looking up and contemplating the R stuff.

JC w KC redux · « **Reply #16 on:** October 22, 2019, 07:09:10 PM »

You can see the prominent squarish lodestone on the pedestal in this pic (same as first old pic)

Here you can see the lightish patch just above the bulge, a lodestone on the right side of the arete (same as both old pics) and that big divot on the right ((same as second old pic).

JC w KC redux · « **Reply #17 on:** October 22, 2019, 07:13:17 PM »

Quote from: NOAL on October 22, 2019, 07:07:05 PM

Yep. That's why he's looking up and contemplating the R stuff.

The GULP moment.

mungeclimber · « **Reply #18 on:** October 22, 2019, 08:39:03 PM »

Oh well done! I believe you’re right.

I did not know and neither did Brian. Hopefully he’ll see this. I gave him the link to the thread.

waldo · « **Reply #19 on:** October 22, 2019, 08:40:23 PM »

You've got it, JC. I got out Roper and Richards to bring tomorrow in hopes that we could discuss this, but the old boys are no longer needed.

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Author Topic: Help identify route from a historical photo (Read 2018 times)