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Aliens...
« on: October 01, 2013, 07:02:50 AM »
Not sure if anyone saw but FixeHardware based in Bishop has dropped their regular price on aliens to $68 (from $79.95). They are doing a promotion for one more day - you can get them for $50 with the promo code alien50. With tax and shipping they are right at $60 each. They have lots of other goodies on sale too.
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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2013, 04:11:15 PM »
Mungie would buy a new set but is in love with those BD C whatevers.
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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2013, 11:03:02 AM »
F4, that is incorrect.


JC, appreciate the heads up anyways.
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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2013, 08:29:27 PM »
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F4, that is incorrect.

Then buy a new set and sell me your old ones....
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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2013, 09:10:04 PM »
makes no sense. everyone needs more cams, not fewer.


btw, if I hit Donnells this weekend, not likely, but if I do, can I work the apron project?
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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2013, 09:14:46 PM »
makes no sense. everyone needs more cams, not fewer.

ain't they purdy :)


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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2013, 09:51:24 PM »
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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2013, 10:44:17 AM »
The Totem Basic cams are way better and cheaper. IMHO.

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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2013, 11:03:28 AM »
I just had an experience with my newer green alien. The stiffness of the cable seems to have given way to bending right at the trigger. So it's very hard to hold onto it while retracting the cam lobes and nestling it into cracks at the same time.

Anyone else notice this on the newer style alien cams that they've had for awhile?
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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2013, 02:11:41 PM »
the old cable stem friends used to do that.  Argghh
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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2013, 04:50:19 PM »
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I just had an experience with my newer green alien.

That was Fixe version cam?

Blue totem cams have a similar issue.  All floppy, yet so much better for that quality.

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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2013, 08:46:04 AM »
The Totem Basic cams are way better and cheaper. IMHO.


I have both Fixe and Totem...the new totems do look sweet
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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2013, 10:31:40 AM »
That was Fixe version cam?

Blue totem cams have a similar issue.  All floppy, yet so much better for that quality.

Yes, Fixe branded, not old one.

How is it better Atom? You've mentioned it a lot, but in what ways?  You're talking the Basics, not the Totem/Totems?  Totem totems are off the charts superior due to the expansion and ability to hold off one lobe set. But they are bigger in the head width, so in some cases of free climbing, not superior. Aid, no question, but they are impossible to get right now.
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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2013, 10:35:21 AM »
Not impossible.....they seem like for aid they would be the s**t.

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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2013, 10:42:49 AM »
hmmm, retail shop didn't have them when we were up there. And the homepage said they were backordered indefinitely.

I'll inquire.
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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2013, 10:49:41 AM »
hmmm, retail shop didn't have them when we were up there. And the homepage said they were backordered indefinitely.

I'll inquire.

Why inquire Munge when you can select "buy now". BWA WAAAH WHAAA!

Wasn't there a separate FB post about consumerism and less is more:-)
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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2013, 11:35:13 AM »
less IS more, as long as you have a set of doubles of those!
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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2013, 12:00:06 PM »
less IS more, as long as you have a set of doubles of those!

I see what you did there :P
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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2013, 02:16:44 PM »
so I can borrow them from you or not? ;)
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Re: Aliens...
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2013, 04:22:53 PM »
The second round of Totem basics have a number of improvements. Most notably, the trigger wire has been reworked with a very durable thin diameter cable. The fabric sheath from trigger to cable wire assembly is flexible and seems more responsive then the wire style. I haven't measured but the head seems narrower. When I pulled the pin out of the crux of West Face of El Cap, the totem offset was the only cam narrow enough to place in the pin scar. I like the cam lobe surface too, I don't have much confidence in the surface of the Fixe ones.

The Blue Totem cam seems to fit in even narrower spots then the Green Alien does. Basically the Totems are the best cam ever. Such a radical departure form anything else. Go climb El Cap with them and you will be sold. I use them for free and aid equally. And for free climbing they don't walk as they exert much more outward pressure on the crack. Got mine at Mountain Gear, but talked to Larry from Mountain Tools about their strategy and apparently one of the founders died and they continue to struggle to fill that hole. Orders are coming in too fast to fullfill.