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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #140 on: November 27, 2013, 10:00:13 AM »
Thanks for the write up Brad.
I will live vicariously through you on this one and probably avoid Denny/Colliver routes like the plague in future excursions.
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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #141 on: November 27, 2013, 10:30:33 AM »
No, not a fun route, all in all. But a fun experience; one that is already getting better as it recedes in time.

Perhaps the best part was getting to know Kevin better. I still recall the first time I met him (in the West Side parking area; when he told me he intended to do Premeditated "clean," I thought he was either a lunatic or totally inexperienced. I learned on Icarus that he's definitely not inexperienced).

The more I think about it, the more my admiration for those two (Denny and Colliver) grows. Although part of me questions their state of mind: on several of their Pinns routes they belayed on single, 3/8 inch Star Dryven bolts. Yes, they were newly placed when they did this. Yes, they modified the bolts and yes they placed them well. But one bolt? In Pinns rock? I was kinda bent jugging on a single (modern but rusty) 3/8 inch bolt that was backed up by a rivet and cams up higher. And their run-outs? Bold is a good start for describing their Pinns climbing. And with so little noise too - more than half of their Pinns routes went unreported until 2006.

I think that, if I was to do Icarus again, I'd first replace the bolt at the end of the A3 section, the bolt where Icarus and Sons of the West join, and the rivet ten feet above that (I'd replace all three with 3/8 inch stainless). I'd then definitely belay where we did, where Sons rejoins Icarus (BTW, we belayed as indicated but then used the Sons of the West belay anchors to back up our fixed ropes as we descended - yet another way that we weren't as bold as Glen and Gary - but it would have been dumb to not use these as backups since we were rapping right over them).

Now, I'm off to get a tetanus shot; it turns out that the booster isn't good for 15 years, but only 5 to 10.

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #142 on: November 27, 2013, 12:30:23 PM »
congrats!
Here's to sweat in your eye

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #143 on: November 27, 2013, 01:05:35 PM »
Boom, there it is.

Kevin is Solid all around, the kind of guy you want around when the shit goes Bagalaar.

He said the free climbing you did up there was very real.


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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #144 on: November 27, 2013, 03:44:16 PM »
I've seen Brad's free abilities on granite too. 10d R valley potato chipping shit.
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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #145 on: November 27, 2013, 04:56:44 PM »
10d R valley potato chipping shit.

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #146 on: November 28, 2013, 08:42:20 PM »
Great work, gentlemen!  The Icarus club is small and most distinguished.

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #147 on: November 29, 2013, 10:23:47 AM »
Some pics







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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #148 on: November 29, 2013, 08:19:54 PM »
That's the stuff
On Aid at Pinns... It's all A1 til it crumbles. - Munge

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #149 on: November 29, 2013, 08:57:29 PM »
Wait a minute... Brad called me a lunatic! WhyIautta...

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #150 on: November 29, 2013, 09:19:58 PM »
Hey, I'm suffering over here. I'd forgotten how tetanus shots ache. And, since I was going to pass out from the sight of one needle, I had them do a flu shot too, so I would just already be unconscious. So I've also been wiped out with "mild" flu symptoms.

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #151 on: November 29, 2013, 09:21:08 PM »
get well soon.
Here's to sweat in your eye

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #152 on: November 29, 2013, 10:23:03 PM »
Got the sniffles and sneezes going darn strong over here too.

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #153 on: November 30, 2013, 06:33:02 AM »
Lol, you guys just did heinous "pinns A3" and pinns run out 5.9 loose free....and now you guys are posting about sniffles and sore arms?


buahaha




*irrational fear of needles is fully justified tho. Hate em.
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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #154 on: December 16, 2013, 06:08:08 PM »
Icarus Postscript:

- Quoted material posted with each author's permission.

- As demonstrated below, Kevin is one tough dude. Like "holy crap" tough.

- Warning: some of what appears below may turn your stomach.

When Kevin and I launched up our fixed ropes on our final day on Icarus, I lost a purple handkerchief. It had been in my pocket, and I think it snagged on something.

As he was rappelling after the climb we saw my missing, well-used "snot rag" about 30 feet up on the wall, stuck on a little bush. I was bummed to have littered, if only by accident.

Two weeks later Kevin and I linked up to do a first ascent up and right from the base of Icarus ("Are You Inexperienced," finished yesterday). Alas, my handkerchief was still there, 30 feet up the wall. Kevin's friend Sammy joined us for the day yesterday.

This morning I emailed Kevin and thanked him for a great day. I also asked how Sammy had done on her own later-in-the-day lead of Corona. Here's the email exchange that resulted (appalling, stomach turning parts in bold):

His first reply:

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Sammy did fantastic on corona, I led it and she followed. Then she sailed up Corona on lead nice and methodical, no hangs, no freaking out, and moving solidly all the way to the chains.

I was quite proud of her.

You'll be happy to know that when I cleaned Are You Inexperienced I traversed to the chains above your handkerchief and retrieved it. I'll get that to you when I can.

Sami says to tell Tricia merry christmas!


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Good for her!

And good for you for having the courage to handle my used snot-rag (yuck). Thanks.

Oh, and for obvious reasons I missed getting your signature in my first ascentionist's guidebook. Let's not forget!


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It's worse than you thought, I needed both hands to keep from swinging back into the corned to the right so I had it in my mouth for a bit. Here's hoping the rain gave it a good rinsing.


Yep, that's one tough hombre...

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #155 on: December 16, 2013, 07:05:54 PM »
Eeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #156 on: December 16, 2013, 07:59:15 PM »
I actually think that I had a more last taste in my mouth from putting the wrong end of the blow tube into my mouth when I was drilling the anchor bolts at the top of the new climb. Maybe that was the best thing, rock dust to protect you from the future snot possibilities.

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #157 on: October 07, 2014, 09:54:14 AM »
I just went and did the first two pitches with my buddy Nate this past Sunday. I had no idea what to expect of the route but planned on looking into the Sons of the West variation since aid climbing is totally not my thing. This first pitch was heads up for me, it had been awhile since I got on some choosy 5.9. I was excited I brought the tricams and the tree rest was most welcome. I then led the second pitch bolt ladder with just a quick draw and a double length sling with some knots tied in it, plus runners for pro. I didn't find it reachy even with limited gear, although in a few spots I pulled on some manky body weight kind of pieces and made one 5.10+ free move. I aided all the way to the start of the Son of the West variation. We rapped from here after Nate struggled up behind me. I was kind enough to not bring him gear for ascending the line. This is typically how I haze new climbing partners. I like Nate. He smiled the whole way despite the lack of equipment. Now he's a certified ninja aid climber. At this point Nate was pooped and the heat was coming on quick. We rapped and then we went and did the first two of SOD. I linked the first two pitches. I went form the ground to having Nate on belay in under ten minutes. I joked how I felt like Honnold and that I should go for a NIAD. Ironically another climbing partner called me for a NIAD attempt next Thursday. I quickly felt my rack of nuts shrink and declined, not feeling like Honnold much anymore.

Anyways. Icarus, via SOTW, looks pretty cool. Looking forward to going back. The V-slot looks pretty rad. The aid climbing looks scary. I will not be repeating that one.... ever.


Congrats to the 2nd ascent party.



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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #158 on: October 07, 2014, 11:36:21 AM »
Rad.
Causing trouble when not climbing.

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #159 on: October 07, 2014, 08:12:34 PM »
The climbing from the SOTW bolts up to the aid pitch was def heads up and I'm glad that Brad led that section. I'm actually glad I couldn't even watch him from the ledge below because everything feels easier when you don't have to watch all the flexing timebombs beneath your partner's hands and feet.

Good luck if you ever do decide to try to aid pitch. It's all there, barely; hard but not that dangerous because you either find the placement and go up, or you don't find it and head on down.