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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #120 on: November 21, 2013, 09:50:18 PM »
Now I feel better about the blade that Mucci welded on Laughing at the Void. I worked on it for quite some time and ended up losing quite a bit of skin in the process.

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #121 on: November 22, 2013, 09:09:32 AM »
It's all A1 til it crumbles.
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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #122 on: November 22, 2013, 01:39:17 PM »
Forgot about that video!  What a fun route that was.

Icarus has always been on my 'serious' list.

Good job on both of you and I wish you sending vibes this weekend.

If my partners bail on me (light duty) this weekend, I will come out and get some shots of you two.


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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #123 on: November 24, 2013, 07:21:10 PM »
Six hours of work and pitch three is still not finished…

Aid portion of the pitch is finished though. By far the most difficult pitch of aid I've ever done at the pinnacles (yes, more difficult then premeditated)

The big question now is that we have five or so pins still fixed in the pitch and we have to decide if we are going to remove them at the risk of destroying the placement or, leave them at the risk of changing the character of the route (The route has had no fixed pins to this point except for one at the pitch two anchor)

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #124 on: November 24, 2013, 07:52:58 PM »
Bolt it!

I mean leave the Pins in.'
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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #125 on: November 24, 2013, 08:37:35 PM »
free it
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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #126 on: November 24, 2013, 09:14:35 PM »
Free those Pinns!!!

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #127 on: November 25, 2013, 08:42:00 AM »
Sounds like the placements will deteriorate either way.

FP are bunk in Pinns, and the threat of blowing out the placement will become a reality when the next team does that route in 37 years.

Pinns are expensive, best pull em the best you can, very gingerly.

2nd and last ascent  ;D

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #128 on: November 25, 2013, 08:50:13 AM »
Sounds like the placements will deteriorate either way.

FP are bunk in Pinns, and the threat of blowing out the placement will become a reality when the next team does that route in 37 years.

Pinns are expensive, best pull em the best you can, very gingerly.

2nd and last ascent  ;D

Booty pinns! Grab them and paint 'em Mucci red quick!
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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #129 on: November 25, 2013, 04:14:41 PM »
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Booty pinns! Grab them and paint 'em Mucci red quick!

But wait, isn't Red your color Squiddo?
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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #130 on: November 25, 2013, 05:02:48 PM »
I plan on doing this route at some point and I will bring a hot glue gun to secure my pins.

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #131 on: November 25, 2013, 05:25:17 PM »
Route is finished! One day recon and bail. One day rebolting. Three days of climbing.

-Pitch 3 took me 7 hours over 3 days
-Brad almost lost his thumb (and will probably still die from iron poisoning).
-Two poop issues for Kevin
-Was able to pull all but one pin with no cleaning damage. We left the 3/4 angle driven at an upward angle into a pocket
-And introducing...The Crash Pad Rock Guard Awning (used at the pitch #2 belay)

Brad says: Who's next?

Kevin says: Jump on it quick before all my aid placements fill up with mud and lichen.

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #132 on: November 25, 2013, 05:49:29 PM »
Proud.  7 hours for you on a pitch means at least A4.

How were the upper 2?

Full report please.

Bravo team

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #133 on: November 25, 2013, 06:51:53 PM »
there it is.

hot damn!

"Crash Pad Rock Guard Awning" <-- can I borrow that?  I have a little something something that needs to be done and the belayer shouldn't have to die.
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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #134 on: November 26, 2013, 04:40:53 PM »
  I have a little something something that needs to be done and the belayer shouldn't have to die.

Is this quotable?
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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #135 on: November 26, 2013, 09:04:22 PM »
just facts
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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #136 on: November 26, 2013, 10:54:02 PM »
I only lost a chunk out of the tip of my thumb. It just bled a lot. Kevin seems to keep the back edges of his thin, hatchet-like pitons very sharp (I'm not naming the type of pin because it will sound very strange in context).

Icarus is certainly the most serious route on Machete. It is also one of the most serious multi-pitch routes in the park. It requires an interesting combination of frightful, stout, mandatory free climbing and hairy aid - an unusual mix. Kevin, you were the ideal partner for that combination, thanks for sticking it out with me!

It's nice to have it done.

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #137 on: November 26, 2013, 11:17:14 PM »
40 Hawks and No Kit!


That's the only thing I learned in 2013, well, that and that Icarus is bad ass.

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #138 on: November 26, 2013, 11:53:02 PM »

How were the upper 2?


Here's a more detailed description of the whole climb:

- The first pitch is routine for Pinns, one stout section of 5.9, 50 feet to a ledge, some good pro, some not so good (including a nice, tied off tree branch). It has a ten foot long, scary, very loose, traversing finish. Take a set of cams from 1/2 to four inches.

- The second pitch starts with the 50 foot, overhanging bolt ladder. This still has enough un-replaced bolts to add a little spice. From the end of the bolt ladder move up and right to an obvious (and fractured) lodestone. From the top of this lodestone clip a bolt. Move up and left to an unlikely slot that takes a good #3 Camalot. Continue up a slight right facing corner, placing two more one inch cams in slots. Belay from two fixed pins and two good cams (1 1/4 inch and 1/2 inch). The pitch is 120 feet long. The mandatory free climbing on this pitch looks very hard, and virtually everything that sticks out from the face seems loose (I used mostly things that went into the rock, slight scoops, for my feet and just pulled very, very gently on the stuff I had to use for my hands).

- Pitch three requires good loose-rock free climbing skills and really, really heads up Pinnacles (note: Pinnacles, not granite) aid climbing ability. It is 100 feet from the second pitch belay to the bolt at the top of the aid portion of this pitch. Loose 5.6 (or so) climbing then leads up and left eight feet to a large scoop (Sons of the West rejoins Icarus here). There is one bolt about eight feet above this scoop. Note, continuing with the upper part of this pitch may not be wise. This third pitch is 190 feet long as it is shown in the '07 guidebook, and that may be too much without a really serious use of runners below (Kevin set up a belay from this one bolt backed up by a rivet ten feet higher and cams ten feet above that; I jugged on this anchor. Glen and Gary certainly belayed here from one, yes one, Star Dryvin bolt). Kevin used a pink Tri-Cam, stoppers, cams to two inches, about a dozen pins (mostly thin to small angles), and a "Pika" hook (multiple uses of this hook on the pitch).

- The upper part of pitch three (call it pitch four) is the "V" slot. This protects fairly well with a few large stoppers and cams from 1/2 inch to 4 1/2 inches. When I led it I thought it was very physical, that it had one distinct crux at a desperate-looking overhanging spot, and that it was otherwise fairly straightforward. Kevin led it on this climb, and I think he would agree with my assessment (I heard some grunting from him, at least).

- The fifth pitch is about 170 feet long and is protected with bolts only. The first 135 feet are sustained 5.8, with several 20 foot runs between bolts. The climbing then gets easy to a two-bolt anchor.

- The last pitch is 60 feet of very easy fifth class to the top.

I think the funniest moment of our ascent was when I said to Kevin "I think the FA was in 1976." A long pause was followed by his response: "That was three years before I was born." That's a long gap between ascents.

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Re: Dreams of Icarus
« Reply #139 on: November 27, 2013, 09:43:23 AM »
2016!


er, probably not. Doesn't sound like much fun, all in all.
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