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How did you learn "the ropes"?
« on: March 08, 2012, 02:52:38 PM »
Hey gang - if anyone is inclined, I would love to hear about how/where/why you got started and who was instrumental in your education.  It seems to be such a deep and experienced community here.

It might also be fun to hear about any stories you have about mentoring new climbers.

I'm part of a fledgling group and look forward to getting a couple decades under our belts and history to share with each other - and others.

Thanks!
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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2012, 05:13:01 PM »
Wow. That'll take a bit of time. (I can get wordy which makes up for the young age) I'll get on it and post back later.

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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2012, 05:56:46 PM »
faked my climbing degree so i could sleep with the coeds. >:D

now my coed lives with me.

she only sport climbs but has never climbed in a gym.



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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2012, 07:33:50 PM »
The "best" climber is the one having the most fun.

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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2012, 08:28:25 PM »
Started off bouldering at Castle Rock left when I got disenchanted during the bolting and scrubbing craze. Heard about The Pins.  Been down hill ever since.  All my different partners have been influencial in one way or another but the one person that influenced me more than any other is Clint Cummins.  I was fortunate to have climbed with him for several years.  I should have learned more.

When I first started climbing at The Pins it was common and almost necassary to have some form of rack.  After a couple of years I started climbing in the Valley and other places.  Was always happy to come back to the Pinnacles.  Have been climbin since 86, have had a couple of good days but still trying to figure it all out.
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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2012, 09:25:34 AM »

she only sport climbs but has never climbed in a gym.


I swore I would never climb in a gym or climb a sport/bolted route. Now I do both but consider the gym more just for fitness since most of the holds are so unrealistic and the ratings don't hold up compared to th real thing...never say never...
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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2012, 10:12:04 AM »
School of hard knocks....
TM Meadows Rock class with my bro...next day GreatWhite Book with a partial set of nuts, hexes and 1 #2Camalot. My brother tells his english teacher about it..his reply...."yeah I soloed it".

Then we learned to clip bolts a few years later @ Mickey's. ThinLine was the 1st 10something lead I did. I pitch off just once.....
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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2012, 10:31:38 AM »
I swore I would never climb in a gym...

If you're in SC then I assume you climb at Pac Edge. I can tell you from my experience that they set routes that feel more like outdoors than any other gym I can think of (Pac Granite, Touchstone, SportsOutlet, some gym in Boulder Colorado, the Hangar down in socal)

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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2012, 10:44:05 AM »
Cool question. I started climbing after a few months of "rock hunting" in the local hills around Cupertino, CA. Not exactly a "mecca" of stone but I was 12 years old and it was a walk/scramble away. The local park was mostly dirt, steep and dangerous and had killed more than a few kids before me.....stoners paradise of which I was not a card carrying member. My tools amounted to fairly routine items- hiking boots and a rock hammer but escalated quickly to nylon ropes, body rappelling and worse. I still can't believe I managed to move onto rock alive.

After a few sessions with a local guide at Castle Rock, I was ready for the real stuff....granite. This was '82-83 so keep in mind that no rock gyms existed so I had to find someone to guide me in Yosemite. I was fortunate enough to have a father who was friends with none other Leigh Ortenburger (yes THE Leigh of Tetons fame) who at the time lived in nearby Palo Alto. He put me in touch which a Sierra Club member who recommended a guide. For the paltry sum of $100 my brother and I were chaperoned to Yosemite where we spent a day learning anchors, placing gear (base of Churchbowl) and multi-pitch climbing on the apron and Manure Pile. Great memories.

A short while later a trip to Europe with my family resulted in a first rope (Cousin POS that was white with red that turned pink after a wash), Shoes (Fires!), Cams (FRIENDS for $18-$25 each!), and Nuts (WC Rocks). What a trip.......

Fast forward to my first leading outside and none other that the Pinnacles. I still remember that first Pinns trip...wandering around looking for climbs I could TR. Back then.....it was slim pickens.

Still love it- what a sport.
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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2012, 11:14:30 AM »
Let's see if I can inspire a few more stories...
I'm dedicating this history/story to Martin Hackworth, Keith Phelps and John Bronaugh.
I've always had a hunger for adventure.
My first memory of climbing something scary was one summer in the late 60's.  Two little kids (8 years old) scrambling and clinging to a dirt/clay precipice about 100 feet high - Deadman's Cliff in Akron, Ohio. We used whatever we could get our hands on (hatchet, garden tools, etc.) to chip holds in the hard clay. We even eventually established a little cubby way up near the top for afternoon lunch breaks(bologna sandwiches on Wonder bread as I recall). We spent all our free time in the woods hiking, climbing trees to get wind rides, finding vines to swing on and floating down the Little Cuyahoga on really hot days(before it caught fire).

I remember once as a teenager (14 or 15) climbing about 40 or 50 feet up a vertical face on the sandstone in Virginia Kendall Park. It was straight up, but there were horizontal cracks the whole way (irresistible). I got to the top and realized I was on an isolated island outcrop and there was no other way down. Shaking all the way, I downclimbed with my buddy on the ground directing my feet - I couldn't see below and couldn't hang off to look down.

A few years later we moved to KY and the Red River Gorge became my playground on weekends and summers. I had a habit of getting myself and sometimes my friends in sketchy situations. One time we climbed down from the top of a tall ridge (well over 100 feet) to an upside down nose formation sticking off the cliff. A few crazily exposed moves down followed by a traverse that involved stepping/bridging across a void. My buddies still remind me of it when we reminisce and shake their heads in disbelief that they were crazy enough to follow me.

I wasn't introduced to technical trad climbing until my late 20's (1987-89). My piano teacher Tina and her boyfriend John Bronaugh were heavy into climbing at the gorge and invited me one weekend. John led a beautiful dihedral with a roof (Vector Trouble 5.10a) followed by Tina - then they toproped it so I could take a shot. I remember watching him lead and getting sewing machine leg - I had no idea at the time what he was experiencing. John tied a sit harness for me from webbing and sporting my tennis shoes - I managed to get about 2/3 of the way up before peeling off in the crux while trying to instinctively layback up a finger crack - I took a huge swing...screaming as they laughed hysterically at the bottom. They told me when I came down that I made it way farther than they expected. That was it - I was hooked...

I spent every weekend for about the next 2 years seconding for trad leaders. There were almost no bolts in the Red at that time - it was all trad. I got to do some amazing climbs and became part of a small, tight-knit community of hardcore climbers. There was a guy who ran a small guide service out of Miguel's ice cream and pizza shop(still there) - the standard hangout for climbers after a day in the crags. He had a reputation for taking newbies out and thrashing them - though that was never my experience. He had also written the first guidebook I ever saw (Stones of Years) and established a plethora of classic lines. I don't remember exactly how we met, but Martin Hackworth and I became fast friends and started climbing together. He had a sarcastic wit (like me) and he was/is a no nonsense guy who tells you exactly what he is thinking - I like that! He took me up many of his favorite climbs, introduced me to double-rope technique and we played guitar together when we weren't climbing. Martin and I were often joined by an up and coming leader - Keith Phelps. Keith was a bold learner and took me up a few classic routes when Martin couldn't get out to the crags. I even managed to get in on two first ascents with Martin and others  and got my name in the new guidebook(written by John Bronaugh). The climbs are on Coffin Ridge - Pine Box 5.9** and Mental Mantle 5.8*
One of Martin's funniest stories was the day he was hired to take David Lee Roth and his bandmates out for a day of climbing. Martin sang "Just a Gigolo" up at Roth while he was thrashing and failing on Vector Trouble (on toprope). Wish I'd been there!

I fell out of climbing (pun intended) when sport climbing became the rage in the late 80's and bolt routes started going up in record numbers. A passionate pastime that to me was a way to get away and share close bonds with highly ethical and dedicated traditionalists was suddenly popular - my worst nightmare! It didn't help that I had begun working nights in a newly opened Toyota factory. I gradually lost touch with my climbing buddies and many of them moved on to other places or pursuits. Martin and John acted as route police for a few years - occasionally having to chop bolts from established trad routes. Martin moved to Idaho and John died suddenly of a heart attack while climbing a route called Finger Lickin' Good 5.10c R** - one of Martin's many fine FA's.

I never led anything in the Red but I did occasionally free solo a few short routes after I "quit" climbing - Beginner's Nightmare 5.1*, Haystack Rock 5.3X* and Courthouse Rock's Standard Route - 70 feet of serious/committing 4th class.

Now after a 20+ year hiatus, my wife and I made a deal - I would go to the gym (aaack) if she learned to ride the unicycle. She's still trying to break free on the wheel, but one thing led to another (again, pun intended) and I decided it was now or never to start leading outside. I want to get as much adventure as I can, while I'm still physically able. Stepping off the ground on my first lead a couple of months ago in the High Peaks has been a real game changer for me. I no longer follow - I lead - and I don't plan to climb anything that I can't lead...okay...your turn...
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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2012, 11:27:50 AM »
If you're in SC then I assume you climb at Pac Edge. I can tell you from my experience that they set routes that feel more like outdoors than any other gym I can think of (Pac Granite, Touchstone, SportsOutlet, some gym in Boulder Colorado, the Hangar down in socal)

You're lucky to have a gym like that. Tom is the Shizz

I have heard other folks say similar things. I do feel lucky and Tom has been great - although I rarely see him lately. They have a 5.9 route on the arete right now that is the best one yet - gives a nice exposed feel. I also have to say that after leading a few of the 5.7's at Pinns and then doing a 5.7 at PE...a 7 at the gym feels at most like a 3 outside...and some of the crux moves on the 7's at Pinns feel more like 9's at the gym...of course that may just be the adrenaline talkin'!
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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2012, 11:28:06 AM »
I spent my childhood going to the Pinns, (and J-Tree, Yosemite, Death Valley, Red Rocks, etc) with my father (a herpetologist who taught at USC, UCSF, and other lesser known institutions) and spent all of my time there, hiking, and catch/releasing lizards and snakes. There were a few memories that I have of seeing climbers up in the high peaks and my father scoffing at them and calling them thrill-seeking who destroy the natural resource experience for everyone. It never occurred to me to climb or even see another side to the coin and so my life went on.

It wasn't until I became a teacher at the age of 26 that things changed. I had my summer's free now and wanted to get back into summer camp work which was an important part of my upbringing. The camp I chose was Shaffer's High Sierra Camp near Tahoe and when I got the job I was informed that I needed to take part in one of the 3 core activities of water sports, mountain biking, or rock climbing/ropes course. Being 120lbs and prone to hypothermia, I did not want to go into any alpine lakes and having ridden my bike on fire roads before and thinking I would die painfully the entire time, I decided I would be an "instructor" during that summer in rock climbing. (this is rather uncommon for my camp as most of our activity staff are well-versed in their activity area. I was a special case due to my vast camp counseling experience and experience teaching)

When I got tot he camp, i threw myself into learning everything that I could about climbing so that I would not be a burden to the climbing crew and so read John Long's Rock Climbing and Advanced Rock climbing cover to cover over and over until i could quote the texts verbatim. Though I lacked practical experience, within a week I was able to instruct on theory quite well and left the practical application instruction to my peers.

On the staff was a couple of guys (Grizz and Silvo) that became my climbing partners and ended up teaching me everything I knew by taking me out all over Tahoe and roping me up and telling me to "go for it" My slab instruction consisted of "just step on the rock and trust it." my crack instruction consisted of "shove something in and twist it till it hurts then stand/pull up on it" My rope work instruction consisted of "WTF are you doing? don't do that anymore, do this."

Within weeks, I started to see rocks and boulders and outcroppings in a new way. When one of the workers at my camp caught me running my fingers over a boulder near the dining hall at the camp, trying to feel different ways to use friction on the rock face, he yelled, "J-Tree's got the bug, it's all over now!" (My summer camp has all its workers have nicknames and I chose J-Tree because of my hiking and camping experiences there with my father as a boy, of course, it has new meaning to me now)

After that summer I stayed with my summer camp climbed around the Bay Area and Yosemite every weekend that it didn't rain from then until today. My first Bay Area Rock Climbs book is littered with notations and comments in the margins (many of them angry insults hurled at the author concerning approach and descent info) My Climbing Director at my summer camp had no winter job and so every weekend I could go he would go as well. We pushed each other and I pushed myself remembering telling one of my friends, i'll be climbing 5.11 by next summer to which he replied, You'll be lucky to be climbing 5.9 by next summer. I only respond one way to a challenge and so dove into climbing like nothing else before in my life.

I would meet with Grizz at the Touchstone climbing gyms in the bay area after school every other day. We would climb until we couldn't anymore, go get food, eat, then return to the gym to climb until they closed or we couldn't move which ever came first. I have very distinct memories of getting into my car at the end of the night and not being able to work the stick shift because my hand and arm was still sore and seized up from the days workout. I would sit in the seat listening to the radio and reading guidebooks for 30 minutes or so before being able to drive home.

During this time Grizz and i decided to check out the Pinnacles. He'd never been and I remembered it from being a kid.
"What's the climbing like?"
"I don't know, the lizard hunting isn't very good though, but I know that snakes will bask on the side of the freeway at night to catch the last of the warmth and if the night is windy enough you can go out there and see them rolling down the side of the road."
"What?"
"Yeah, I don't know about the climbing"

So we went to the East Side for a Thanksgiving break and climbed at the Monolith and Discovery wall for a few days. I remember climbing Portent on thanksgiving day specifically so that we could eat a "feast" of turkey jerky while on a multi-pitch route. During the time we met some climbers from Kentucky who were there because their family lived in hollister. they were climbing while tied into the harnesses via a square knot and trying to climb some of the sport routes on the right side of Disco wall without knowing what they were rated. I showed them the guidebook and Grizz showed them a better way to tie into the rope. Later they almost froze to death because all they'd brought to sleep in the campsites was a thin blanket and a hammock.

The Pinnacles changed my climbing though. A week there taught me how to pull myself into the wall with my feet and legs, how to high step, hand/foot match and so forth. The next week we were at the gym and where I was stuck on climbing 5.10c's for the last month or two, all of the sudden, i was able to climb 5.11b's. the Pinnacles had internalized a style of climbing that used my whole body instead of my legs. I continued my gym workouts and weekend outdoor climbing in places like Castlerock (mostly at Summit Rock pre-closure) Indian Joe Caves, and the Grotto.

Later in the year, right before going back to my summer camp, we took a road trip to J-Tree and ended up at Wheeler Gorge on the way home. I led my first 5.11 on the last day of my trip. Called Silvo and told him to suck it. What kind of person does that make me to let an angry desire to disprove someone control so much of my drive and emotion? A shitty one, but whatever, I lead a 5.11 sucka!

Up to this point, my main and only climbing partner had been Grizz. We spent the summer with Silvo climbing more in the Tahoe area and put up some insignificant FA's in the hills an hour north of Tahoe where the camp proper is, but nothing worth talking about. After that summer, we went to Yosemite and everything changed.

Enough for now.

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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2012, 11:44:37 AM »
One of the best things you can do for yourself at Pac Edge is to do laps on the slab wall first thing on the right. There's always at least a few hard routes that force you to make big moves on small bits on the slab. The moves aren't just stupid hard, but force you to feel your body as you make minute adjustments setting up for the movements.

Of everything at that gym, those routes can help with outdoor movement more than anything else I've done.

And never again compare grades in the gym to the outdoor realm. There's no point and it's not helpful.
Use the gym to internalize how movements between certain spacings of holds feel. This works on 5.2 climbs and 5.12 climbs. Then when you're outside, you learn to superimpose parts of the gym over the rock in front of you. Once it "clicks" you can "onsight" part of an outdoor climb you've never been on because it's something you've climbed a thousand times before in the gym.

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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2012, 02:25:01 PM »
One of the best things you can do for yourself at Pac Edge is to do laps on the slab wall first thing on the right. Of everything at that gym, those routes can help with outdoor movement more than anything else I've done.

And never again compare grades in the gym to the outdoor realm. There's no point and it's not helpful.

That is great advice! I strained up a new route in the trough last night that is exactly as you describe.
I totally agree with the "never again" comparison of grades suggestion - there is no comparison.
I also feel like I know what you mean when you talk about climbing with your whole body when leading at Pinns. Your experiences around CA make mine seem puny but I also know it's not useful to compare your own experiences to anyone else's. If I compare my guitar playing to Al Dimeola I would never pick the thing up again! 

My rope work instruction consisted of "WTF are you doing? don't do that anymore, do this."
I got a kick out of this while reading your story. I tried that approach with some newbies and it was not well received. We haven't climbed together since...
looking forward to reading part two of your history...
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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2012, 05:48:12 PM »
It's interesting to read everyone's story. I do wonder from time to time how guys get started out because I've met a few climbers in the gym who are eager to get out, but have a hard time finding outdoor mentors and partners.

I envy you people who got out while young. I spent my youth studying, reading, or watching TV, etc. being a very hardcore couch potato. I had the belief that it takes certain genes to be in any sort of sports and I don't have any. Moving to the Bay Area after grad school changed my life because I felt guilty staying indoor when it was nice out. And it was nice out a lot. So I started tagging along on some public hikes by a local Sierra Club chapter. I made friends who were into other outdoor activities besides hiking, such as rock climbing. Now that I think about it, the first outdoor trip I was taken on was to the Pinns. Ha!

It was not too long before I started dating an experienced rock climber. As far as learning "the ropes" goes, that's really a great way. (Now you see why I'm always curious how guys get started.) When we parted ways, I was already on my way to be independent -- I equipped myself with a complete trad rack including some big pieces. Can you believe I flew to Colorado by myself after reading an article about Vedauwoo, and hooked up with someone I responded to on Craigslist and had a blast (trip report)?   ;D

Climbing (or was it F4?) led me to Mr. Mud.  He tolerated my Valley and Sierra craze for quite a while and took me up many classic lines (I'm not that independent after all although I did share some leads), but it seems that once it was clear that we would join our lives together, he just wanted to go to the Pinns. Okay, to be fair, many things happened that led to the shift, which involve a broken finger, busy work schedule, other newly found passions, and... a few cats.  The best climbing days might be behind us, and I think I'm okay with it.

Okay now, CruxLuv, what's your story???
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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2012, 10:57:08 AM »
You're lucky to have a gym like that. Tom is the Shizz

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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2012, 11:18:17 AM »
Okay now, CruxLuv, what's your story???

Wow - I can't wait to do more than skim these!  Unfortunately I'm on day two of a gnarly migraine and home instead of having lunch on Old Original with waldo and friends. 

Damn, damn, damn!   >:(

I'll give my short but sweet story some effort...
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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2012, 01:20:06 PM »
You're lucky to have a gym like that. Tom is the Shizz

Though I don't want to slight the manager at my own gym. Diabo Rock Gym in Concord has Hans Florine who shares his techniques and philosophies of light is right with anyone and everyone. Hans is also the shizz.

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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2012, 03:02:57 PM »
I'm actually astounded that it took me this long to get serious about climbing.  I think I just never had the opportunity or outlet.  I've always been a bit of a monkey/billy goat and loved climbing trees and scrambling up rocks/mountains.  As my friend used to describe me:  Oh, that looks hard - let's do it! 

But that was a couple decades ago and adult fears crept in I suppose, so I didn’t do much rock hopping.  (And still, my least favorite part of climbing is the exposure on some approaches and trails when I’m not tied in!)

Last May I conned a few girlfriends into taking a six weeks women's class at Pac Edge even though I'd never climbed there or anywhere else "for real".  Three of us were hooked from the get-go!  Haven't looked back and, in fact, have plunged head long into it and managed to wrangle my anti-climbing hubby into it. 

We were at the gym at least three times a week, soaking it up and advancing as much as possible.  Not really thinking about taking it outside.  At that point, the appeal was the novelty of doing something different with my body and getting stronger.  Climbing actually made me move differently in everyday life – a whole new awareness of balance and space.

One day I was grinding my way up to Sand Point on my mtn bike looking at the ground and thinking…hm, there’s a good hold…that’s a crimper…there’s a sloper…

Yeah – hooked.

In July, a friend of a friend took us to Castle Rock and we played on Swiss Cheese.  It was a great first experience outside but that particular location just didn’t call me.

It wasn't until September that a couple of us took Scott's Pac Edge Pinn Trip.  Again...hook, line and sinker!  Swallow's Crack will always have a special place in my heart as it was my first taste.  Luckily the weather was in our favor and we were able to go out Oct thru Dec with him as well.  On a very, very cold day (learned about screaming barfies!), I managed my first outdoor TR 5.10 on Terranian Tango - again, a special place in my heart.

But that was only once a month and not near enough.  I was downright craving that mud (crud?). 

I have since taken Tom’s Lead Class, outfitted myself with enough gear to fill a closet, learned how to set a top rope and hit Pinnacles as often as possible.  Oh – and The Book, of course.  You’d never know I’ve only had it a few months based on the number of dog ears, notes and wear it’s already sporting.

On a bright, beautiful, warm New Years Day I took my first lead - Sinbad.  Whoop!  Exhilarating to say the least.  I’ve only done a couple other routes on lead – Big Bad and Corona – I’m in no hurry to chase numbers, just to have fun and enjoy the entire experience and people I’m with.  I’ll get there.

Early on, more than one person told me that the best thing about climbing was the community.  I nodded politely since I’d been part of communities before: road biking, mtn biking, running…but they were right.  The people I’ve met and friends I’ve made in this short amount of time are amazing and very special.  Maybe something to do with literally putting yourself in each other’s hands?  Ya think?

What I’m most excited about is connecting with veteran climbers like waldo and Gavin.  That’s where I’ll really learn the stuff to be safe, get to the next level and how to enjoy the journey.  I’m very much looking forward to meeting more of you at Rockpile next month.

Some day I hope to be able to fan the flame of a new and eager climber and pass the torch.
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Re: How did you learn "the ropes"?
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2012, 04:29:45 PM »
Wow, I leave for a week in Red Rocks and I come back to  what, 50 or 100 new posts?

The "new blood" on this site has been very, very good (not that I haven't always been fond of the old blood too).

I started climbing in May 1983 at what I thought then was the "late" age of 22 years. Friends at UCSB took me to Gibraltar Rock in the mountains above the city. We climbed mostly with Gold Line and, later, with one perlon rope. On my feet I had Nike "Lava Domes," which were the first low-top hiking shoe (instead of boot). These were not climbing shoes at all, but they got some friction on sandstone and, after all, my feet didn't know any better. My friends had EBs (one also had glacier goggles; I'm not sure now what use glacier goggles were on California sandstone, but he sure looked like a climber).

They gave me lots of pointers and tried to teach me over several trips.

There were no such things then as climbing gyms. Sport climbing hadn't been invented and sticky rubber and active camming units were just appearing on the horizon.

After a year of trying to scrounge gear and climbing chances, I met up with my first true climbing partner, Carl. Carl had lots of gear, he knew what he was doing, and he'd done a WALL (The South Face of Washington Column).

Much of my formative climbing was at Pinns with Carl (I then lived in San Jose). I've absolutely loved climbing there ever since then. The rest of my early climbing was in The Valley and at Lover's Leap.

Like CruxLuv, I was hooked immediately. Within a year and a half of starting to climb I'd led my first multi-pitch route (January 1st, 1985 - I led both pitches of Lava Falls), and my first 5.10 crack climb (Peruvian Flake in The Valley). Within two years of starting I'd done my first Grade V aid wall (The South Face of Washington Column), my first Grade V in a day (Steck Salathe on Sentinel Rock), and my first El Cap Grade VI aid wall (Triple Direct).

Along the way I benefitted from Carl's mentoring for a while, and then got strong help from Dave Harden, Forrest Rade and Charles Field (known universally as "Footie").

I still climb often with Dave (twenty five years of climbing together as of this last February) and occasionally with Footie.

All of my strongest friendships originated from climbing partnerships.