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Re: Climbing Advisories 2013 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #100 on: January 20, 2014, 02:00:22 PM »
I saw some soiled underpants with about a whole roll of TP scattered around them.  The other thing that shocked me was the increase in trail braiding through the switchbacks on the Southern portion of the Tunnel Trail.  

Add some baby wipes and small bottle of hand sanitizer to the list.

We could stand to have trail day on the west side focusing on piling cobble size rocks into the "braids".
Large enough to stay in place and make walking over them on a slope treacherous.
It might be easier and faster but not as aesthetic to do the pound in fence posts with green mesh to block the entrances/exits.
 
Do we need to start a new topic?
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Re: Climbing Advisories 2013 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #101 on: January 20, 2014, 02:04:04 PM »
Probably a new topic. Maybe Gavin could call James' attention to it?

And instead of rocks, dead branches (some big ones) are really effective at re-directing braids (look at how we did it around the Discovery Wall area in October).

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Re: Climbing Advisories 2013 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #102 on: January 21, 2014, 09:00:03 AM »
Hey All -

I'm just about to post the updated Climbing Advisories on the first page of this thread, but wanted to respond briefly about the trash and trail braiding problems first.

I really appreciate the responses about trash / trail braiding and absolutely agree that the problems have gotten worse... In the 11+ years I've been working here (and the few before that when I was also hiking / climbing here), the trash and trail braiding are the worst I have seen. The trail braiding is bad in many places but I agree that it is particularly shocking along the Tunnel Trail. As someone who lives and works at the Pinns, is is so frustrating to see this place we love getting degraded.

As for things to do about it. First, I strongly recommend that each and every person commenting here sends personalized emails on the subjects directly on to our trails foreman James (james_bouknight@nps.gov)... You can CC me (gavin_emmons@nps.gov) as well if you'd like. Bruce Hildenbrand already sent a couple of emails on these subjects, and I think the more we receive, the better, as the emails help to document visitor concerns with the problems.

Second, organizing clean-up days (of trash and degraded trails) are great ideas. As many of you probably know, Pinnacles gained National Park designation a year ago, and that has definitely contributed to greater visitation (and visitor impacts) here. What you may not know is that the National Park designation brought absolutely no new money to the park, for more staff, maintenance, or anything else. With shrinking federal budgets and sequestration effects, the capacity of NPS personnel to adequately respond to park needs - law enforcement, trail maintenance, etc. - has been strained even further. Right now, we basically do not have a trails crew due to the funding cutbacks.

With these things in mind, any efforts on your part to remove trash and tend to braided trails are invaluable. I'm sure James would be thrilled to have folks agree on times to come out and have focused days of litter clean-up and trail repair. On my end, I have tried to organize trash clean-up days a couple times a year for NPS staff to be a part of, but of course the trash keeps on coming.

I am hoping to keep pushing the idea of having (more or less) mandatory trash clean-up days for Pinnacles staff, at least a couple times a year. Beyond that, we should work with James to organize some days when we can mobilize enough folks to bring down the trash load and work on trail projects. I would guess that with enough people, even a few hours in a day would have a substantial effect... And still leave some time for climbing afterwards.  ;)

Okay, enough for now... Advisory updates coming soon.

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Re: Climbing Advisories 2014 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #103 on: January 21, 2014, 11:16:02 AM »
thx Gavin

Does this...
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we basically do not have a trails crew due to the funding cutbacks.

mean that we couldn't organize another volunteer trail day this year?

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Re: Climbing Advisories 2014 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #104 on: January 21, 2014, 11:25:20 AM »
E-mails sent.  Thanks, Gavin.

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Re: Climbing Advisories 2014 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #105 on: January 21, 2014, 07:07:46 PM »
thx Gavin

Does this...
mean that we couldn't organize another volunteer trail day this year?



No, sorry for the confusion: James is the trails foreman and he is definitely working here, and would (I'm sure) be thrilled for another volunteer trail day. Other than him, though, there is basically no one else on staff working on the trails crew at the moment. (The one seasonal trails guy that was working for James had recently re-injured a knee that had undergone surgery and will potentially be unavailable for trail work for some time.)

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Re: Climbing Advisories 2014 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #106 on: January 21, 2014, 07:09:11 PM »
E-mails sent.  Thanks, Gavin.

Thanks for the effort!

It looks like I might have posted James' email wrong before... It is edited and correct now, and I forwarded your message to James' correct email address.

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Re: Climbing Advisories 2014 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #107 on: January 21, 2014, 07:21:40 PM »
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Re: Climbing Advisories 2014 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #108 on: April 25, 2014, 06:54:30 AM »
Hey all, just a heads-up that I just updated the climbing advisories based on falcons and other raptors confirmed nesting at the park so far this year. Let me know if you need additional details. It may take me several days to update other official advisory information (in brochures, online, on bulletin boards, and in regards to advisory signs), but I'll get to them as I can.

Of note, we have two nesting peregrine falcon pairs (in addition to 10 nesting prairie falcon pairs so far) for 2014. One pair of peregrines is nesting in the Tuff Dome / H&L Dome area (as has been the case the past 7 years or so) and the other pair is nesting at Balconies. This is the first time in over 50 years that a peregrine falcon pair has nested on the west side at Pinnacles and that we have had 2 pairs of peregrines nesting at the park in the same year.

The historical significance is even more interesting because the Balconies area was identified as a "falcon sanctuary" or "peregrine area" on the 1920s and 1930s park maps... Even back then, park managers were aware of the value of the cliffs for prairie and peregrine falcon nesting, and this served as one of the main justifications to include Balconies (and Machete) within the park boundaries back in the day.

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Re: Climbing Advisories 2014 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #109 on: April 25, 2014, 08:40:59 AM »
thanks Gavin! that opens up some stuff I'd like to get back to.
time to beat the feet to beat the heat :)
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Re: Climbing Advisories 2014 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #110 on: April 25, 2014, 10:36:26 AM »
Nice! Let me know if you ever need another person out there to climb with.

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Re: Climbing Advisories 2014 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #111 on: April 25, 2014, 01:44:25 PM »
Gavin, congrats on the dual peregrine sites.
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Re: Climbing Advisories 2014 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #112 on: April 25, 2014, 03:09:54 PM »
Thanks Gavin!
Sounds like Condor Crags is back in the picture now.

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Re: Climbing Advisories 2014 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #113 on: April 25, 2014, 04:12:25 PM »
mmmmm...Mongo need finish outstanding FA's - resume career as High Peaks Freak :)
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Re: Climbing Advisories 2014 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #114 on: April 26, 2014, 08:26:07 PM »
Gavin, that's great news about the Peregrines!

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Re: Climbing Advisories 2014 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #115 on: April 27, 2014, 10:18:36 AM »
 I am convinced the advent of a second pair of peregrines is because of the high quality ascents that occurred just prior to the nesting season in the sensitive areas. On a raw,evolutionary level the peregrines felt and adopted the "we can do this" attitude that the extraordinary climbing style on these routes exhibited.
 Perhaps if this trend continues, the whole Park might be closed From Jan-July. A life-size  Model of the Monolith (with a full service bar and grill on top, including elevator/ADA access) could be constructed at the campground for climbers and campers, with nightly campfire talks about birds, bats, Belizzi doing reenactments of the FA of P.O.D., Park history,and the social life of  NPS employees.... for use only during the closures.
 The future possibilities are endless. I am sure the E.I.R. would sail through quickly. JC would protest, but including a realistic, unprotected choss pinnacle, covered in natural moss should shut him up.
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Re: Climbing Advisories 2014 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #116 on: April 27, 2014, 10:33:00 AM »
Note; Tecate would be served and no one would ever have to wonder again where's Waldo?.
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Re: Climbing Advisories 2014 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #117 on: April 27, 2014, 10:47:09 AM »
I am convinced the advent of a second pair of peregrines is because of the high quality ascents that occurred just prior to the nesting season in the sensitive areas. On a raw,evolutionary level the peregrines felt and adopted the "we can do this" attitude that the extraordinary climbing style on these routes exhibited.
 Perhaps if this trend continues, the whole Park might be closed From Jan-July. A life-size  Model of the Monolith (with a full service bar and grill on top, including elevator/ADA access) could be constructed at the campground for climbers and campers, with nightly campfire talks about birds, bats, Belizzi doing reenactments of the FA of P.O.D., Park history,and the social life of a NPS employees.... for use only during the closures.
 The future possibilities are endless. I am sure the E.I R. would sail through quickly. JC would protest, but including a realistic, unprotected choss pinnacle, covered in natural moss should shut him up.

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Re: Climbing Advisories 2014 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #118 on: April 27, 2014, 10:59:29 AM »
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Re: Climbing Advisories 2014 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #119 on: April 27, 2014, 05:02:03 PM »
A full replica of the Monolith @ the East side visitor's center would be nice.

That would save all that time hiking up there.

Even better, POD could be "altered" into a better climb.
Heck, one could then free Bridwell Bolts...

Then one could take a dip in the pool after a few laps.

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