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Re: Climbing Advisories (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2012, 04:13:24 PM »
Gavin, we were on Toog's Gallery on the 13th.  It was a quiet, lovely morning, but there was a very unhappy prairie falcon above us on Machete - restless flights to the Balconies and back, much vocalizing.  What went wrong up there?

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Re: Climbing Advisories (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2012, 08:24:54 PM »
Bob - I'll forward you Gavin's email in response to my concern after our adventure.  All's well-
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Re: Climbing Advisories (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2012, 08:26:42 PM »
Gavin, we were on Toog's Gallery on the 13th.  It was a quiet, lovely morning, but there was a very unhappy prairie falcon above us on Machete - restless flights to the Balconies and back, much vocalizing.  What went wrong up there?

Yeah, CruxLuv contacted me via email to ask about this same day. From Toog's I'm fairly sure the prairie falcon was not particularly concerned about you. Falcons wail and call for a number of reasons, sometimes just to announce territorial presence, sometimes to communicate with mates, nestlings, etc. The falcon in question may have been more irritable and restless than normal as its nest site at Machete recently failed (I confirmed nest failure at Machete on May 14.) ... I have noticed similar behavior before right after nest failures. The adult female prairie falcon has been regularly using a territorial perch on the NW end of Machete as well, and the Machete pair has been occupying both Machete and General Balconies throughout the season. Usually you know that a falcon is particularly stressed by your presence because it will call rapidly, loudly, and hoarsely while diving at you or circling very close to your position. That is a good time to retreat from the area!

Anyway, I hope that helps... I will continue to check out the area in the very unlikely event that the Machete pair attempts to re-nest.

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Re: Climbing Advisories (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2012, 06:24:41 AM »
Yep, that was Bratton (F4) and I.

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Re: Climbing Advisories (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2012, 06:10:00 PM »
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Usually you know that a falcon is particularly stressed by your presence because it will call rapidly, loudly, and hoarsely while diving at you or circling very close to your position. That is a good time to retreat from the area!

Wise words..In another country, while climbing I had a Starling dive bom me and I did get me on the neck several times. Then there are the Baboons.....

I shutter to think what a raptor would do even a chickenhawk (they seem to always find a club)?

Squiddo, don't lie. That must have been Mungie and a partner. He's always up there or @ Crowley Towers.
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Re: Climbing Advisories (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #45 on: May 23, 2012, 01:38:36 PM »

I shutter to think what a raptor would do even a chickenhawk (they seem to always find a club)?


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Re: Climbing Advisories (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2012, 01:56:29 PM »
Yeah, CruxLuv contacted me via email to ask about this same day. From Toog's I'm fairly sure the prairie falcon was not particularly concerned about you. Falcons wail and call for a number of reasons, sometimes just to announce territorial presence, sometimes to communicate with mates, nestlings, etc. The falcon in question may have been more irritable and restless than normal as its nest site at Machete recently failed (I confirmed nest failure at Machete on May 14.) ... I have noticed similar behavior before right after nest failures. The adult female prairie falcon has been regularly using a territorial perch on the NW end of Machete as well, and the Machete pair has been occupying both Machete and General Balconies throughout the season. Usually you know that a falcon is particularly stressed by your presence because it will call rapidly, loudly, and hoarsely while diving at you or circling very close to your position. That is a good time to retreat from the area!

Anyway, I hope that helps... I will continue to check out the area in the very unlikely event that the Machete pair attempts to re-nest.

Cool, thx Gavin!

When a 'nest fails' does that have a scientific or more technical meaning? Or is it a general term to describe any number of causes for not reproducing?  I guess I'm curious if 'fails' means the pair actively worked on the nest and laid eggs, but the eggs broke, we're eaten by rats, eaten by another bird, or if the birds failed to do the dirty deed at all and conception failed... then they abandon the nest after no eggs?  Just not sure of the timing of a failure.

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Re: Climbing Advisories (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2012, 02:41:25 PM »

When a 'nest fails' ...?


Ya beat me to it!  I'm curious too-

Also wondering if there has been an increase or decrease in recent years.
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Re: Climbing Advisories (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2012, 04:33:52 PM »
Perhaps they sense hungry climbers in the hood.

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Re: Climbing Advisories (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2012, 05:03:21 PM »
And it was hot enough to fry an egg a couple weeks ago...
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Re: Climbing Advisories (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #50 on: May 23, 2012, 05:19:53 PM »
And it was hot enough to fry and egg a couple weeks ago...

Damn, you come up with some wingers. It took me a second to even get this one.

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Re: Climbing Advisories (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2012, 02:35:51 PM »
Cool, thx Gavin!

When a 'nest fails' does that have a scientific or more technical meaning? Or is it a general term to describe any number of causes for not reproducing?  I guess I'm curious if 'fails' means the pair actively worked on the nest and laid eggs, but the eggs broke, we're eaten by rats, eaten by another bird, or if the birds failed to do the dirty deed at all and conception failed... then they abandon the nest after no eggs?  Just not sure of the timing of a failure.



Munge (and CruxLuv), as you are guessing, a "nest failure" refers to a cavity nest that a prairie falcon pair laid eggs into, or hatched nestlings from, that subsequently failed due to a few possible reasons (nest predators, human disturbance, extreme weather, etc.). In closure updates, I only refer to active nests in a given season that have been confirmed through observations. The Yaks prairie falcon pair did not nest this year but occupied the territory (along with Hanging Valley). Although they are continuing to loosely occupy those areas, it is too late in the season for them to begin nesting, and at any rate they are not exhibiting any behavior that would suggest they are considering a late season effort (they seem to be a very young pair that haven't quite figured it out).

In general, nesting efforts - where falcons lay eggs and proceed to incubate them - are rarely started later than March / April at Pinnacles. However, I did just confirm a prairie falcon pair in a remote slide wall area of the park that laid eggs early in the season, failed to hatch young, and have subsequently re-nested and laid a 2nd clutch of eggs. It is the first confirmed 2nd clutch prairie falcon attempt observed at Pinnacles in over 10 years. So... even though a 2nd clutch attempt by the Machete / General Balconies falcon pair is unlikely this year, it is possible, so I'll continue to keep an eye on those birds.

Probably more information than you wanted, but I hope that helps!

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Re: Climbing Advisories (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2012, 05:25:32 PM »
Probably more information than you wanted

Not at all!  Muy interesante!  Gracias-
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Re: Climbing Advisories (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #53 on: May 28, 2012, 06:13:47 PM »
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laid a 2nd clutch of eggs. It is the first confirmed 2nd clutch prairie falcon attempt observed at Pinnacles in over 10 years

yes, very interesting, thx!!!
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Re: Climbing Advisories (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2012, 03:37:02 PM »
Attention all! I am lifting all climbing advisories today, and will remove advisory signs / update advisory bulletin boards over the next couple of days. So, all climbs at Pinnacles are now open for climbing again.

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Re: Climbing Advisories (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2012, 04:02:26 PM »
Whoop whoop!!   8)
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Re: Climbing Advisories (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2012, 06:16:56 PM »
that answers that question - here we go!
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Re: Climbing Advisories 2013 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #57 on: January 22, 2013, 07:08:27 PM »
Advisories Have been updated.
Please avoid the Sensitive areas.
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Re: Climbing Advisories 2013 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #58 on: January 23, 2013, 07:07:48 AM »
Thanks for the update, Mud. If folks have any questions, give me a shout!

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Re: Climbing Advisories 2013 (Protection of Nesting Birds of Prey)
« Reply #59 on: January 23, 2013, 04:38:12 PM »
Advisories Have been updated.
Please avoid the Sensitive areas.
Thanks

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