Author Topic: Conduit To The Cosmos: finally climbed, and question on anchor replacement  (Read 5328 times)

Gavin

  • Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 495
    • Gavin Emmons Photography
Hey gang -

I was out climbing on the west side yesterday, and finally had the chance to check out some routes I've always wanted to explore, in particular Conduit to the Cosmos. Man that is an awesome route! At the top of the second pitch, I noticed the anchor for the belay station is still made up of three bolts with hangers plus some fading webbing and a couple of rings. Would anybody be totally opposed to the idea of me replacing the webbing with short chains and quick links (painted to blend into the rock color) to make the anchor safer and less visible?

mungeclimber

  • PermaBan
  • ***
  • Posts: 6687
    • http://www.sonorapassclimbing.com
If the topo + visibility from belay/ground is good to know where you are headed to get to that belay, I say replace it.
On Aid at Pinns... It's all A1 til it crumbles. - Munge

mungeclimber

  • PermaBan
  • ***
  • Posts: 6687
    • http://www.sonorapassclimbing.com
wait a second!  You climbed Conduit? 


Where's the full trip report?!?!?!?!  :)
On Aid at Pinns... It's all A1 til it crumbles. - Munge

squiddo

  • Pin Heads
  • *
  • Posts: 2383
  • If it itches, scratch it.
wait a second!  You climbed Conduit? 


Where's the full trip report?!?!?!?!  :)

Totally, and picts. Also, how BAD is that crux:-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Every climb gets 3 stars from me until I climb it.
-Anonymous spirited climber

F4?

  • unworthy
  • Posts: 6175
Nice! Please put chains on it.

It's on the list to rebolt that route. Jim want's to replace the bolt before the crux with a monster 1/2 SS sucker.

If on it again, please brush the holds.
I'm not worthy.

Gavin

  • Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 495
    • Gavin Emmons Photography
Thanks for the feedback.

As to a trip report: yeah, I guess I could provide a few more details! Unfortunately I didn't have a camera with me... I was kicking myself about that, especially sitting on the enormous cliff wall boulder for the second pitch anchors. I'll try to remember to bring one next time for some before/after shots of the second pitch belay anchor.

At any rate... I hiked over to the west side with my wife Alacia. Balconies was in full sun, so we started with a few warm-ups at the Flumes: Bits n' Pieces, Rebecca's Sailing, and Nipples and Knobs. I'd done the first two before, but not the 10a. That was a pretty cool climb too, with solid holds and some fun sustained moves.

It was getting towards afternoon so we packed and hiked to Balconies, now all in the shade. We weren't sure what we were going to climb but gazing up the Conduit line, I convinced Alacia to let me go for it. I'd always wanted to climb the first two pitches but had never been on it before. (Yeah, I know I've been here a number of years...)

Well, suffice it to say I onsighted it and it was a hell of a lot of fun. There are certainly some holds that flex, but by and large the rock is amazingly solid and fun all the way through. There are some pretty huge knobs - more like small boulders - sticking out of the cliff face! Although some of the holds were a bit dirty near the bottom of the first pitch and the top of the second pitch, all in all the holds weren't too dirty. (Okay, right near the massive boulder of the second pitch anchor the exfoliating, peeling rock effect was definitely a bit more evident.)

It's funny, the 10d section wasn't as bad as I expected... The runout was kinda freaky and exposed, but I was preparing for far worse. (Maybe I've been spending too much time on Heat Seeking Moisture Missile!) I think the trickiest part on it was halfway through the crux, when the solid feet more or less disappear. There is a lefthand knob that initially looks nice but is downturned and feels really awkward... Once I figured a way to grab it, though, I was able to push through the rest. (Alacia pushed through the first pitch after some cursing and screaming, then let me finish off the second pitch.) We rapped off the wall and got to the base right around dusk. Good timing, and super fun!


mungeclimber

  • PermaBan
  • ***
  • Posts: 6687
    • http://www.sonorapassclimbing.com
Thx!


Borrow a pic from Clint's post on the Taco just to liven up the thread...

Cory Mclean on Conduit at crux bulge...

On Aid at Pinns... It's all A1 til it crumbles. - Munge

Gavin

  • Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 495
    • Gavin Emmons Photography
Nice... Looks a bit cooler in that pic than I experienced yesterday! I think it must have been mid 90s yesterday... Not thinking, I climbed shirtless, sweat, and got bits of lichen everywhere.

Speaking of the Conduit crux, there's a pretty fun lieback move right after it and before the first anchor too. Keeps ya guessing!

Brad Young

  • Grand Master
  • ***
  • Posts: 6736
Gavin:

Totally impressive lead. Conduit is a big entry on one of my Pinnacles lists (the list of routes that I haven't done there that scare the sh#$ out of me).

Jim doesn't post here all that much, but he certainly lurks. I suspect he'll post here soon and give his blessing to chains.

BTW, CALL or EMAIL me before you do it again. I am not proud. I really, really like climbing with you. I love helping clean up old belays. I will gladly drive over, even for the day to belay you and help (and get to rehearse the moves before I lead it).

mungeclimber

  • PermaBan
  • ***
  • Posts: 6687
    • http://www.sonorapassclimbing.com
load up the wagon, I'd hold Gavin's rope to get a rope above me on a route like that!  :)
On Aid at Pinns... It's all A1 til it crumbles. - Munge

Brad Young

  • Grand Master
  • ***
  • Posts: 6736
Re: Conduit To The Cosmos: finally climbed, and question on anchor replacement
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2011, 05:14:13 PM »
Hey, hands off, I dibbsed him first.

mynameismud

  • unworthy
  • Posts: 5978
    • Mudncrud
Re: Conduit To The Cosmos: finally climbed, and question on anchor replacement
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2011, 06:44:40 PM »
Brad and I replaced some real old tat with chains on Powers that Be.  The chains were not painted and stuck out a bit until after the first winter.  They are still unpainted but are now almost invisible.
Here's to sweat in your eye

Gavin

  • Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 495
    • Gavin Emmons Photography
Re: Conduit To The Cosmos: finally climbed, and question on anchor replacement
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2011, 06:05:17 AM »
Thanks for the chain suggestion... I'll see what I can find at the local hardware stores and online. Regardless, I think chain and quicklinks would be an improvement. You can't see the anchor from the base of the climb, because of the huge boulder sticking out at the belay station, but from the main hiker trails I've definitely noticed it before.

Brad (and Munge), I'll let you know when I can make it out to Conduit again. It might be a bit, as Alacia and I are heading to Ecuador for the first 3 weeks of November (for birding, wildlife photography, and that sort), but I'd love to get back on this winter. Maybe I can give a go on one or two of the 5.11 climbs nearby as well. I'll let you know when I wrangle up some anchor supplies.

F4?

  • unworthy
  • Posts: 6175
Re: Conduit To The Cosmos: finally climbed, and question on anchor replacement
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2011, 09:46:47 AM »
I'll be happy to help!  :o
I'm not worthy.

MUCCI

  • Mudders
  • **
  • Posts: 462
Re: Conduit To The Cosmos: finally climbed, and question on anchor replacement
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2011, 05:36:54 PM »
I have ASCA hardware I can mail or drop off, or bring the day of replacement.

I also have 2 ring Fixe ASCA anchor rigs.

And Big Fat SS bolts.

Let me know, bout that time again....

F4?

  • unworthy
  • Posts: 6175
Re: Conduit To The Cosmos: finally climbed, and question on anchor replacement
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2011, 09:57:31 PM »
Shameless plug. If any of you have free time....come on over and help out on the money pit..aka the new case de factor. The Muds have done their share.


Oh and yah, we should get a date set to replace all of the bolts.

T-Giving week???

Yoohoo Jim......
I'm not worthy.

Gavin

  • Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 495
    • Gavin Emmons Photography
Re: Conduit To The Cosmos: finally climbed, and question on anchor replacement
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2011, 01:01:25 PM »
Nice... It sounds like there may be interest in replacing bolts on Conduit as well as other routes.

If I get some chains and quick links, perhaps I can put those on the second belay station anchor in the interim, then the bolts themselves can be replaced at a later date and the chains / quick links can be used or discarded as the rebolting team sees fit.

Just a reminder that seasonal raptor closures will stat up again in mid January (around the 16th, I'd guess)!

mynameismud

  • unworthy
  • Posts: 5978
    • Mudncrud
Re: Conduit To The Cosmos: finally climbed, and question on anchor replacement
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2011, 03:41:56 PM »
Another route in that area that could really use a couple of fresh bolts is Peregrine

Especially the 2nd pitch

Here's to sweat in your eye

Jim McConachie

  • LoadStone Lovers
  • *****
  • Posts: 21
Re: Conduit To The Cosmos: finally climbed, and question on anchor replacement
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2011, 01:08:17 PM »
Hello Gavin,
Replacing all that crusty old webbing with chains would be greatly appreciated and long overdue.  I had planned to be back well before now to clean up the route, but... other life like intrusions have taken priority.

Hi Erik,
T-day weekend, provided it's dry, will work well for bolt replacement.  I still have a couple of ASCA half inch stainless for the crux ones.  Other than those two, I only have some 2 1/4 x 3/8 stainless from my personal stock.
 J

mynameismud

  • unworthy
  • Posts: 5978
    • Mudncrud
Re: Conduit To The Cosmos: finally climbed, and question on anchor replacement
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2011, 08:21:36 PM »
I think I have a few stainless 3 inchers.  It will take a very long cheater stick for me to get up that route.
Here's to sweat in your eye