Author Topic: Another Premeditated sucker, er Mud Master in the making  (Read 6337 times)


mynameismud

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Re: Another Premeditated sucker, er Mud Master in the making
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2011, 11:39:55 AM »
Rapping in from that belay to the left (at the top) will leave a person way off to the side.  There is some other anchor that we used to rap straight in.  Will most likely need two ropes.  I would like to know when he is going down even though I have having difficulties getting away right now.  I might just try to meet him down there.

If you can, get him to post on the forum here.  Give him my email addr if he has any problems.

(edit: I just approved his account)
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mynameismud

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Re: Another Premeditated sucker, er Mud Master in the making
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2011, 11:50:36 AM »
Meant to say thank you for the post and for telling him about the site.  It was a good write up.

From that corner you are looking straight up at the crux, in the distance sit the anchors.  Between these two items is a bit of choss.
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Re: Another Premeditated sucker, er Mud Master in the making
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2011, 12:26:08 PM »
Munge:

Would you call his attention to the following please:

There is an old two or three bolt anchor on top of The Balconies that is generally above Premeditated. As explained below, I have no idea about it's source, or what function it serves or served. Clint and I found this years before the new guidebook came out and thought it might be the "top anchor" for the route. That same day he and I each rapped off the anchor, looking for any sign that the route went beyond the top of the second pitch (the bolt anchors at the top of that pitch are easily visible from the ground). In several rappels, covering a width of about 60 feet of rock (jugging up/out in between) we found no evidence of any human activity of any type above the top of the second pitch. We saw lots of loose rock, and several possible places the route could have gone in a third and or fourth pitch (but NOT without lots of bolts - large areas of blank rock), but no evidence of any type that it had gone. And we could see a width of over 100 feet of rock while hanging on the rope in the multiple places we rappelled.

Then, when Dennis and I climbed the route we also found no evidence that any other pitches has been done, other than a few apparent pin scars extending some feet left from the second pitch belay, and then very blank rock past that.

The above facts caused me to describe the route the way I did in the book, namely as a two pitch climb where more pitches had been intended but never done.

So, to get to his question, can one rap in from the top of The Balconies to the top of the first pitch? I agree with Dennis. I think the existing anchor at the top of The Balconies is too far to the side of the first pitch anchor to allow such a rappel. And pulling the ropes after rappelling might be tough too. And there are no other anchors anywhere near the edge (such as trees or cracks) that might allow a rappel.

But it's been about seven or eight years since Clint and I did those rappels, and my memory is a little vague on the relative postions of the first pitch anchor bolts and the anchor on top of The Balconies. I can't even recall which is to the right and/or left of the other.

So, maybe it's worth hiking to the top of the formation and finding that top anchor. That's really the only way to find out for sure. There is a bolt anchor and it's visible from a safe distance back from the edge, although it's a little scary getting down to it.

Tell him also to continue the trip report here when he's done!

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Re: Another Premeditated sucker, er Mud Master in the making
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2011, 03:11:47 PM »
he found the anchor, check the pics on bigwalls.com

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Re: Another Premeditated sucker, er Mud Master in the making
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2011, 03:31:01 PM »
I see that now. I viewed and posted at work, where my PC won't let me view videos (it's old and although I've repeatedly loaded the right software and it agrees that I have, when I try to play video it tells me otherwise; someday I'll replace it with a Mac).

Sorry for the redundancy.

I can't believe he's scared of a little ole Pinnacles A3. I'm not scared of it.... anymore  ;D   ;D Good luck to, is it Kevin? And post up here when you've made more progress.

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Re: Another Premeditated sucker, er Mud Master in the making
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2011, 03:40:52 PM »
I went back too and read today's posts on the other site. Supertopo is linked to my work email, but I got nothing climbing related on that today. Munge, feel free to give him my home email if he wants it. Better yet, he should be on here if he's that serious about Pinns.

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Re: Another Premeditated sucker, er Mud Master in the making
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2011, 10:24:52 AM »
Hey guys,

Thanks for the spot on the forum and the information. Munge convinced me that releading it is the best way so that's what I'll be doing at some point in the future, probably once the weather makes Yosemite unusable for getting up the walls.

I'm in love with aiding at the pinnacles after doing Mustache over the course of 5-6 hours. that love does nothing to calm my fears though, especially when I fell about 7-8 feet onto my back in the first section of Mustache. (turns out there's a spot in between the rocks at the base of that climb where my body perfectly fits.- I also now hate placing knifeblades because of that.)

I met Brad randomly in the parking lot on the West side the day I went to try Premeditated for the first time, I ended up coming down from the traverse at the first bolts because I wasn't in the proper Pinnacles knob climbing mindset. Climbed Bongladesh that day and Brad came by at the end of the day and we had a few more words about how the route scared the hell out of me. (I always figured that he came by to see if there needed to be a body recovery.)

I have notes from each ascent and will create a full TR once the whole thing is in the bag.

Kevin

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Re: Another Premeditated sucker, er Mud Master in the making
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2011, 10:57:39 AM »
Welcome to the forum.  Always good to have another crazy MudMaster.  If you go back to Premeditated post up.  I might try and join you are at least swing by.  I am interested in getting re-acquainted with the 1st pitch.
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