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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Condor Condiment Rebolting
« Last post by mudworm on April 07, 2025, 01:06:22 PM »
I see from your post on Mt. Project that you and mudworm enjoyed the routes there too.  Gavin and Brian (with help from Brad and Fletcher on a couple) really put up some nice routes there.  It is truly a worthwhile destination to spend the whole day in the High Peaks. Super cool summits with across the board quality climbing.  Top notch can't recommend enough.

I agree to all that about Spikes Peak! Thanks, Gavin and Brian!

Swine Flue is pure fun, and so unique! And the close condor sighting at the crag is a treat.

That's good.  You will avoid the dreaded stick clip. :D

But I love stick clip! Okay, I love the concept of a stick clip as I don't actually use it much. Anything to prevent me from getting injured is good. I wish the April's Fool joke was left in. It was a good one, well suited in this thread.


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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Condor Condiment Rebolting
« Last post by NOAL on April 07, 2025, 12:11:42 PM »
Thanks Chris!

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That crew had a blast on Spikes Peak.

I see from your post on Mt. Project that you and mudworm enjoyed the routes there too.  Gavin and Brian (with help from Brad and Fletcher on a couple) really put up some nice routes there.  It is truly a worthwhile destination to spend the whole day in the High Peaks. Super cool summits with across the board quality climbing.  Top notch can't recommend enough.
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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Condor Condiment Rebolting
« Last post by Chris Henry on April 07, 2025, 12:00:33 PM »
Just chiming in to say thanks for the rebolting effort and great report. As mudworm mentioned, I had wanted to get on this one for quite a while & it was sure nice to be up there a week after y'all.  The mixed nature of the route provides a nice adventurous feeling (Not being particularly bold, I placed 4 pieces on P2 & would have placed several on P3 had it been my lead). Four fun pitches to the top of something (one of the major formations at that), what more could one ask for?

These guys were really understanding.  At first I offered to just let them climb through but they were a party of three or four so they said they'd come back another day and climb with the new bolts.  I suggested the routes at Spike's peak to them as an alternative.  Later I could see you and Chris on Spike's and figured it was those guys.

That crew had a blast on Spikes Peak. We chatted for a bit and they climbed (at least) Abuela Cochinita, Poached Pig (TR), Little Javelina, and Swine Flue. I'm sure they will return and be grateful for the effort that went into those shinny new bolts.

We left the old bolt there as a historical thing and also because we were short on time.  People can still throw a cam in the crack if so inclined.  If anyone has an objection to the old bolt still being there I can go pull it when I have time. 

Seems cool as is. Sound anchor & nice reference to the history of the route.

Thanks again to Noal, Marco, and Ryan for your fine work!!

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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: MUD 'N CRUD PICTURES THREAD - WEEKLY FAVORITE
« Last post by NOAL on April 07, 2025, 11:46:24 AM »






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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Condor Condiment Rebolting
« Last post by NOAL on April 07, 2025, 10:53:10 AM »
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Last Saturday at Spike's Peak, a party told us that they intended to climb Condor Condiment, but someone was rebolting it so they came over instead.

These guys were really understanding.  At first I offered to just let them climb through but they were a party of three or four so they said they'd come back another day and climb with the new bolts.  I suggested the routes at Spike's peak to them as an alternative.  Later I could see you and Chris on Spike's and figured it was those guys.

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Then I checked out MP and Ricky Harline's comment got me conflicted.

His post there is very misleading but I respect his opinion.(except the statement that the first pitch has climbing as hard as Lava Falls)  I had not climbed the route since 2011 and my recollection was not very good.  I had also read his post and was thinking "wow this thing might be worse than I recall or maybe I just had a strong head for run out climbs back then"  I ended up leading it the other day because Marco's finger was still injured.  The first pitch is pretty low angle.  I even skipped the 4th bolt that is a little out right and still felt comfortable.  Having the new bolts now takes out part of the sketch factor so hopefully people will feel a little less stressed out.

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I took a peek at the forum despite being only half qualified to read here since I'm not a dude

That's good.  You will avoid the dreaded stick clip. :D

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The belay on top of P3 now has the original bolt (in good shape visibly) and a new bolt, so I doubt anyone would bother placing cams for it in the future.
We left the old bolt there as a historical thing and also because we were short on time.  People can still throw a cam in the crack if so inclined.  If anyone has an objection to the old bolt still being there I can go pull it when I have time. 

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P.S. Oh, how ungrateful of me to have forgotten to say thank you to Noal, Marco, and Ryan for the rebolting effort and ASCA for the hardware! Now, let me go find a suit to put on.

Thanks!  I'm glad you enjoyed having the new hardware.  It's a fun and adventurous route.  It's good to know that Marco and Ryan are capable and willing to carry on doing route maintenance for the coming decades.







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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Condor Condiment Rebolting
« Last post by mudworm on April 07, 2025, 10:12:35 AM »
Last Saturday at Spike's Peak, a party told us that they intended to climb Condor Condiment, but someone was rebolting it so they came over instead. That got me curious. There had to be a mudncrud'er! On Tuesday, I took a peek at the forum despite being only half qualified to read here since I'm not a dude. I enjoyed Noal's nice photo report. Then I checked out MP and Ricky Harline's comment got me conflicted. I found myself texting Mr. Mud, "I'm risk averse these days and not sure if I want to knowingly put myself on a runout route." A minute later, after seeing his response, "Understood," I made the decision, "Will go for it..." Yes, I can change my mind that fast; and yes, Mr. Mud has gotten soft.

Chris took no convincing at all. As a matter of fact, he had been interested in it for a long time. While on the drive, it started to look like we might have to rock paper scissors to determine who would win the p1 lead. But then I remembered how I got lost a week ago while jogging back to the car alone with the intention of reaching the car before Chris so I could have time to prepare some food for the drive. And that was on the return of an out and back hike! (He ended up waiting for me at the locked car.) I could very possibly get totally lost on p4 and turn the outing into an overnight epic. Nope, p4 is his! And that settles p1 since we'd be swinging leads.

Chris had the good idea to hike up Condor Gulch trail so we could access the formation hiking south on High Peaks Trail. When the formation came into full view, it matched Brad's topo perfectly. We were able to identify the two streaks. Now, it just needs to grow, or regrow, a small bent pine so it becomes visible. Once we saw the formation and the route, the approach off trail was very easy and obvious to follow. In no time, we were at the start. If in the past, people accidentally got on Condorks after missing this start, there should be no excuse in the future now that the new bolts are easy to spot.

I was glad to be wearing my precision face climbing shoes on the lower part of p1. There is still abundant moss cover that only a small selection of trustworthy crimps are visible, which requires delicate climbing, but they are all solid. I never felt desperate for bolts leading on this climb, whether it was on p1 or on p3 ("10a" variation) where I did not place any gear. I have a tracked max heart rate 107bpm (of the all day climbing) to prove.

The close proximity of bolts 7 and 8 on p1 puzzled me and I skipped one. I later saw the picture of bolt 7 posted on MP and came to understand why. The belay on top of P3 now has the original bolt (in a visibly good shape) and a new bolt, so I doubt anyone would bother placing cams for it in the future. As for the "10a" variation on p3, I feel a need to use double quotes every time I mention it. While we were on the summit of Condor Condiment, Chirs described Mr. Bolt Jangles, our next objective to me, "it's a little harder than the '10a' variation on p3, but easier than p1." I understood exactly what he meant, and later thought it was accurate.

With the new bolts and abundant solid ground on this four pitch climb that leads to a cool summit, I think the route has the right to become one of the classics at Pinnacles. Now we just need Brad to go yell at those cordors lost at Spike's Peaks that they are on the wrong crag to make Condor Crags whole.

P.S. Oh, how ungrateful of me to have forgotten to say thank you to Noal, Marco, and Ryan for the rebolting effort and ASCA for the hardware! Now, let me go find a suit to put on. [Ref]





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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Condor Condiment Rebolting
« Last post by clink on April 06, 2025, 06:04:57 AM »

 Congratulations on the arrival of your daughter Atomizer!

 What did the chick say to the other chicks when it saw an orange in the nest?

 “Look at the orange marmalade!”
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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Condor Condiment Rebolting
« Last post by Brad Young on April 05, 2025, 06:32:32 AM »
Very nice name.

Since you're a dad now and you mentioned spelling a name backward, we might as well get you ready with the following dad joke:

Did you know that t‌‌he word “‌‌nothing” i‌‌s a‌‌ palindrome?

Backwards, i‌‌t spells "‌‌gnihton,” which ‌means... nothing.
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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Condor Condiment Rebolting
« Last post by Atomizer on April 05, 2025, 06:16:18 AM »
Well, well, well, Atomizer has a daughter. That's wonderful. May fatherhood be a tremendous joy to you too.

EDIT: and what did you name her?

Cora Long
backwards it is A rock
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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Condor Condiment Rebolting
« Last post by NOAL on April 04, 2025, 10:06:56 AM »
Thanks and congratulations on the baby!
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