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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Condor Condiment Rebolting
« Last post by NOAL on April 11, 2025, 12:34:26 PM »Change 10a to 5.8.
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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Condor Condiment Rebolting
« Last post by Brad Young on April 11, 2025, 12:30:38 PM »
If anything maybe change the rating of the 10a variation.
I think there were comments above about this, but to help me not misunderstand those, change the 10a variation to what rating?
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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Condor Condiment Rebolting
« Last post by NOAL on April 11, 2025, 11:59:05 AM »5.8
If anything maybe change the rating of the 10a variation.
The first pitch crux move I believe is at the 3rd bolt. There is a slight bulge there. My first instinct was to go straight over the bulge but if you trend slightly right it is 5.8. I followed this with a heavy backpack last time and still thought it was 5.8.
The rest of the climbing up to the last bolt is 5.6-5.7. The climbing after that is low 5th on good rock. There is not any 5.9 climbing anywhere else on the route.
If you look at the suggested ratings on Mt. Project you get an idea how the general climbing public feels there are two votes for 5.9 one being Ricky Harline...... Like I said up thread I respect his right to his opinion but he comments that he feels the easy top portion of the first pitch is solid 5.6/5.7 climbing.
If anything maybe change the rating of the 10a variation.
The first pitch crux move I believe is at the 3rd bolt. There is a slight bulge there. My first instinct was to go straight over the bulge but if you trend slightly right it is 5.8. I followed this with a heavy backpack last time and still thought it was 5.8.
The rest of the climbing up to the last bolt is 5.6-5.7. The climbing after that is low 5th on good rock. There is not any 5.9 climbing anywhere else on the route.
If you look at the suggested ratings on Mt. Project you get an idea how the general climbing public feels there are two votes for 5.9 one being Ricky Harline...... Like I said up thread I respect his right to his opinion but he comments that he feels the easy top portion of the first pitch is solid 5.6/5.7 climbing.
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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Condor Condiment Rebolting
« Last post by Brad Young on April 11, 2025, 10:19:38 AM »Now's the time to change the rating in the book if it's gonna be done.
Noal, Marco, Ryan and mudworm: trying to be scrupulously accurate but slightly on the conservative side, 5.8 or 5.9?
Of course if the first pitch is 5.9, then the route's rating changes to 5.9 too.
Noal, Marco, Ryan and mudworm: trying to be scrupulously accurate but slightly on the conservative side, 5.8 or 5.9?
Of course if the first pitch is 5.9, then the route's rating changes to 5.9 too.
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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Last post by Brad Young on April 10, 2025, 07:04:21 PM »I tried to explain to the guys how some of the names were derived, especially Chubby Rain and Fake Purse Ninjas.
I got as far as either classic sleeper movies, or lines from movies or characters from movies. I couldn't remember and I don't have much of a background with that kind of deep cultural stuff.
They seemed to get the general idea, at least.
I got as far as either classic sleeper movies, or lines from movies or characters from movies. I couldn't remember and I don't have much of a background with that kind of deep cultural stuff.
They seemed to get the general idea, at least.
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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Last post by NOAL on April 10, 2025, 09:24:30 AM »57
Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Last post by burnsbabe on April 10, 2025, 06:10:57 AM »And by the way, anyone is welcome to join these old men trips. We almost renamed it the old folks trip this year when Ann was going to join. But then she had a work thing.
Although in theory the entry age is 60, one only has to think they are old, think like they are old or at least say the word “old” to be welcomed.
I'll make sure to hang around the team kids at the gym some more. I'll get there soon that way.
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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Last post by Brad Young on April 09, 2025, 06:22:04 PM »And by the way, anyone is welcome to join these old men trips. We almost renamed it the old folks trip this year when Ann was going to join. But then she had a work thing.
Although in theory the entry age is 60, one only has to think they are old, think like they are old or at least say the word “old” to be welcomed.
Although in theory the entry age is 60, one only has to think they are old, think like they are old or at least say the word “old” to be welcomed.
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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Last post by Brad Young on April 09, 2025, 05:02:52 PM »Dave Harden loved the routes up there. He's been climbing at Pinnacles since 1971 and loves getting new pitches in (he measures by pitches). Great grades, very nice routes, a new location and a bunch of new pitches for him. Dawson got in a new lead and Joel got in two. Bart was on injured reserve and Mike had already headed home this morning.
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Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles / Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Last post by Brad Young on April 09, 2025, 12:33:05 PM »The old mans’ climbing crew is enjoying Eye Candy Crag and Bonnie Lass Buttress. Nice temps in the shade.